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Synopsis for anyone who doesn't know about this case: Alyssa Bustamante killed 9 year old Elizabeth Olten about a month or so ago... She strangled her, then cut her throat (though it's not certain in which order she actually commited these acts). A couple of days before she killed her, she dug two graves, so it was definitely premeditated. The killer has a lot of issues, she's tried to kill herself twice, already spent time in a mental hospital, and is a chronic self abuser. She only killed the little girl, because she wanted to know what killing someone felt like. Obviously, she didn't feel anything from it. Because of the severity of the crime, she's going to be tried as an adult, no matter what.

Now, I'm not justifying what she did, and I think she needs to spend the rest of her life in either a really good mental hospital, or prison for what she's done. But to execute her? I think for her age, that's an extreme punishment.

It's unlikely they'll actually put her on death row, but I don't think she deserves to die for what she did. I think she needs a ton of help, for not only this, but with the way she grew up (both of her parents are serving hefty time in prison).

Again, I'm not justifying her. The little 9 year old did nothing, she didn't deserve to get killed. She was just walking home from a playdate with her friend (her friend was sisters with the killer).

But what do you think?



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i agree with you, thing is there is a reason for every bad thing people do, none deserve to be executed, only we have not provided the right care for these individuals, it is wrong to kill this little girl but we are a long way from dealing with these things proper like
 
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Normally, I would say yes to the execution (yes, I am pro-death penalty, deal with it) but this is a case in which life in a hospital should be recommended.

This isn't a case where the killer was pissed off at the victim for saying or doing something. It is apparent that the killer had severe mental issues for a long time. I agree that execution should be waived in this particular case and she should be sentenced to hospitalization in a psych ward.



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Sorry, but I vote Death Penalty. She murdered a little girl!!! 15?, so what! Would you feel any different if she was 18?
 
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i wouldnt feel any different if she was 18.
 
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First off, what the ****:

A photo on the website shows her in black, Goth-style make-up pointing a finger, gun-style, to her head.

HOW DOES WHAT SHE IS WEARING MATTER AT ALL???!!! Sorry, but that is bull****. That comment there is very discriminatory, and I myself would punch the author of the article if I ever met them.

As for what she did, yes, she deserves to be executed. I can care less if she is 40, she killed a child, and therefore get rid of one more worthless piece of **** that is taking up oxygen. I personally think thieves should have their hands chopped off in every country, as it will stop people from being thieves, and executing anyone who murders gets rid of those who do not deserve to live. If I ever killed somone, I would rather be executed than being bored to death in a jail cell.



 
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Normally, I would say yes to the execution (yes, I am pro-death penalty, deal with it) but this is a case in which life in a hospital should be recommended.

This isn't a case where the killer was pissed off at the victim for saying or doing something. It is apparent that the killer had severe mental issues for a long time. I agree that execution should be waived in this particular case and she should be sentenced to hospitalization in a psych ward.


Ditto what he said . . . including being a pro-death penalty supporter.



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I'm going to say even though she is only 15, she did such a vicious thing that she does need to be put to death.

The alternative? Psych ward for the time she needs it, if not for the rest of her life. If she gets the help she needs, and doesn't need to be in a psych ward anymore, then she would get transferred to a regular jail to spend a life sentencing.

Someone that screwed up in the head most likely will never be a contributing member to society unless heavily medicated...and then their sanity rests on the small fact if she goes off her meds, what could happen.

Opinion aside, most likely she will end up with a lawyer that spins a tale and gets her a deal on mentally incompetent to stand trial, and get her in the psych ward.



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The alternative? Psych ward for the time she needs it, if not for the rest of her life. If she gets the help she needs, and doesn't need to be in a psych ward anymore, then she would get transferred to a regular jail to spend a life sentencing.


That is a waste of money and time though. That is more money that could be put into helping an economy get better. More money that could be given to people who need it. More time to come up with something better to do with the world. Why waste it on some worthless sack of **** who does not deserve to live? Not to mention a waste of space for someone who could actually use psychiatric help.



 
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"The alternative? Psych ward for the time she needs it, if not for the rest of her life. If she gets the help she needs, and doesn't need to be in a psych ward anymore, then she would get transferred to a regular jail to spend a life sentencing. "
in saying that there is a chance for rehabilation, i believe thats enough to say no to death penalty, as far as waste of money, money is fake
Someone that screwed up in the head most likely will never be a contributing member to society unless heavily medicated...and then their sanity rests on the small fact if she goes off her meds, what could happen.
 
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In my opinion, she doesn't sound like someone who can be rehabilitated without heavy drugs. She sounds just pure evil. So what do we do? Putting her to death in some ways gives her exactly what she wants--to die. This is not helping her. However, how do you help someone who is that damaged? I believe life in a psych ward is the way to go. Unfortunately, years ago there were places for people like this called State Institutions. They were closed because of inhumane treatment, but they did keep some crazed people off the streets. It's a shame those people were abused and some of them didn't belong there. It would have been good if there were institutions for people like this without the abuse, but I don't think there are many. That's were she belongs-a place for possible rehabilitation, but containment if rehab is impossible.



 
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I would say that no life is a waste . . . but then I'm reminded of Charles Manson, who is again eligible for parole in 2012. If anyone deserved to die, it's him.



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The alternative? Psych ward for the time she needs it, if not for the rest of her life. If she gets the help she needs, and doesn't need to be in a psych ward anymore, then she would get transferred to a regular jail to spend a life sentencing.


That is a waste of money and time though. That is more money that could be put into helping an economy get better. More money that could be given to people who need it. More time to come up with something better to do with the world. Why waste it on some worthless sack of **** who does not deserve to live? Not to mention a waste of space for someone who could actually use psychiatric help.


I concur Gankutsuou I am pro death penality why waste time and money when someone could put two to the back of the stupid ******* head.And be done with it.Heck in my ancestrial homeland the community in whole would encircle her and pelt her with stones till death was reached.Why should citizens pay to keep her alive untill death from natural causes or old age.Death Row should be eliminated a sound proof room behind the judges bench where the guilty get two gun shots to the back of the head or point blank to the heart.Less waste of tax payers money I think.



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