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Originally posted by DudeºX:
*Backs away slowly from this thread*

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Originally posted by KiethBlackLion:
I really don't have a problem with original stories, especially if they outside the normal story arc and explore things that the canon doesn't. However, even if the story itself doesn't fit into canon, the characters still have to. In that regards, the history of the characters must also fit into canon.

As intriguing as it is to wonder if Lotor is really Zarkon's son, the way you are presenting it to us Iris doesn't make much sense. If Lotor wasn't Zarkon's son, and Zarkon knew this, then he wouldn't bother acting as Lotor's father. ESPECIALLY if he has other children across the galaxy. Zarkon seems to me to be the kind of person who would have them all compete for his affection and for his throne.

The only way to really make your story work would be to have Zarkon be completely ignorant of the possibility that Lotor isn't his son. It should be just as much a shock to Zarkon as it is to Lotor.

Now, if you had Lotor suspect something or wonder if he's really Zarkon's son, then you can have Lotor initiate a paternity test. Zarkon would be outraged, etc but would eventually concede to show Lotor that despite his hatred towards him, Zarkon is his father. Then you can have the test show that they aren't related.

Then, Lotor can go off searching for his real father and Zarkon, in a manner that we don't usually see, can be a bit distraught and must now worry about who his heir will be. Plus, you would need to eliminate the "other children on other planets" scenario.

Only then, would your idea truly work.

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Originally posted by Princess Iris:
I consider my part of the series kept canon, even if one of the characters change sides or situations get explored that were never explored.

Season 3 pretty much continues where Season 2 left off & I interpret it in a way as where things could possibly wind up.

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I consider my part of the series kept canon, even if one of the characters change sides or situations get explored that were never explored.

Season 3 pretty much continues where Season 2 left off & I interpret it in a way as where things could possibly wind up.

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Originally posted by Princess Iris:
Okay. Good point. I have a couple other ideas.

1. Zarkon remains as Lotor's father, except in Season 3, this
twin sister of his shows up after having been banished to
another planet at birth. She & Lotor somehow discover
what happened with their mother & go totally beserk on
Zarkon.

2. Zarkon has thought all the while that Lotor is really his
son, but then it turns out, his mother actually conceived
him by another man. It was just like Liv Tyler when she
thought some other dude was her Daddy, but then later
found out her real Daddy was "Steven Tyler."

How do these fit for size?

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Originally posted by Kyence:

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Originally posted by Princess Iris:

Hey, that's what makes the whole plot of it interesting. Something of interest has to be added to the series.

Re: Ep.#83- "Zarkon's Son's"

Writer Of Story: On other planets he's conquered keeping the order. I'm sure someone as old as Zarkon had to have conceived more brats in his time.

When Zarkon invaded the planet where he captured Lotor's Mother;

Zarkon: Eh, my pretty. I shall take u back to Planet Doom to have as my queen. (Looks over at infant boy) And what's this u have here? Ohhhhh, what a cute little pointy eared brat u have. I find him appealing. He'll make a fine addition to help me with my tyrannical conquests.

Even Yurak can't make sense out of this.

You just made two completely diametric plot points that equate a gigantic plot hole and lapse of logic here. If Zarkon has biological sons (which I'm SURE he'd keep tabs on if he was desperate enough to kidnap a freaking heir in your synopses), why the heck is Lotor the Crown Prince? If Zarkon has children of his, why care about Lotor who clearly offers nothing to his father anymore on account of his repeated failures and coups. Please don't say because he's hot, because that argument is getting REALLY old. Zarkon doesn't care about looks, I think that's fairly obvious. It's cool that you want to expand the storyline (I don't think WEP will buy anything from any single one of us, you alluded to this line of thinking in a distant post), but the original show had a slew of plotholes, we really don't need any more. This isn't interesting, it's contrived. I don't watch soap operas and stuff like that, so this kind of stuff is not compatible with me and I'm sure with others. I'm not saying you have to care about my personal tastes, but that doesn't change the fact that it's not the greatest of plot devices, especially since you counter-indicate it with other sons (oh and way to call the other siblings "brats" as though "poor" Lotor was not given the best of everything being the Crown Prince and having a harem and stuff, no, he isn't a brat at all in this scenario).

Warning! Incoming Kyence Rant:
I know some fans have done the reformed!Lotor thing and I've enjoyed their takes, but I've gotta say, Iris, you've milked it dry in my eyes while laying it on too thick. I'm a Z fan, but I don't post massive quantities of stuff about him because I'm not going to convert anyone, nor do I want to. I have seen the Daddy Dearest routine a trillion times since I joined this fandom eons ago, when dinosaurs roamed the Web. It's fine that you dislike most of the Doomites and don't like Zarkon, fine, I get it. I got it 100 posts ago. You like the idea of a Reformed!Lotor, got that, too. You aren't going to convert anyone here, so please stop trying. If anything, you may be turning people OFF of Lotor. I have to be honest: you're killing me, you're freaking killing me, Iris. I've been trying to be nice and hint and try to extract conversation out of your posts, but it's not being reciprocated well, so now I just feel like what's good for the goose is good for the gander. No one would like it if I posted every thread centered around Zarkon twice a day for over a month.

I'm happy that you're a Lotor fan, and you are enthusiastic about it, but it's time for some restraint and a bit more logic. If you want constructive criticism for your stuff, we're a community here, we'll give to to you, but it seems even when you've asked for it in the past, you disregard it completely.
End of Kyence's Rant

Call me mean or whatever, but I'm a flawed human being with a limited amount of patience to allocate and I passed my saturation point. We can discuss this further in PM or e-mail if you want, I don't want to start a flame war, I just wanted to say it now for the record.